Tracey Emin

Tate Director Maria Balshaw catches up with Tracey Emin in her Margate studio ahead of her new exhibition A Second Life, coming to Tate Modern this spring

Tracey Emin My Bed 1998

Tracey Emin My Bed 1998 © Tracey Emin. Photo credit: Courtesy The Saatchi Gallery, London / Photograph by Prudence Cuming Associates Ltd 

MARIA BALSHAW For the past two years we have been working on a major exhibition of your work. I thought it would be a good thing to start at the very top, with the title: A Second Life.

TRACEY EMIN So, my second life is this, now. Sometimes I think I died, and this is heaven. And my heaven is what I’m creating, this amazing art world, this world of art and art school, in a town that I knew, that I grew up in, that’s completely changed. The life that I’ve come back to is just so much better. I have done more in the last five years than I have done in the whole rest of my life.

MB I’ve been thinking a lot about some of the women artists who inspire you, and who get stronger and better as they age. You were roughly halfway through your life when you had the major health incident, and I can now see you living and making art until you’re 100.

TE A lot of women artists didn’t start their career until their sixties or late fifties. Or they might have been making art, but they didn’t have a career. I had a bit of a career before, but I didn’t have the sense of purpose that I have now. I had it within me but I never took up the baton. Now I’m carrying it and I’m much happier in that situation, taking that level of responsibility, because I think art is a responsibility, because you’re putting things into the world.

MB And because you made such an impact earlier in your career, with the quality
and the daring of the work, you had that responsibility, whether you wanted it or not.

TE Yes, but also people didn’t understand the inequality I faced back then. They didn’t, because they had nothing to compare it to. Now, people look at My Bed 1998 and say, my god, that’s 30 years ago. Or they can look at my subjects – say, abortion, rape, teenage sex, infidelity, heartbreak, whatever it is – and see just how important they are.

So, with my work, it was like climbing a mountain one step at a time, getting up there. And then finally, when I got to the top of the mountain, I stuck the flag in. And the flag is my painting. The flag is what I’m doing now. The flag is the conviction and the focus that I have now.

MB The odds were hugely stacked against you succeeding, because artists are supposed to have A levels and then go to art school, and to come from a background that can support that. But you and a number of your peers did not come from that place. Then, when you turned those qualities into your work, that too was used against you.

TE When you come from that background, it’s very different from coming from a place where it’s instilled in you to do your homework, to read books, to learn the piano, to be educated. I went to Tate first when I was 22, because I didn’t know what it was. Why would you know?

Tracey Emin
The End of Love (2024)
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MB One of the things about many forms of your work is that there is an unflinching nature to it, in the things that you paint and write and examine. People naturally pull away from hurt, but you lean into it.

TE People want a quiet life, don’t they? I think when I was younger, I was the target all the time, but didn’t know how to reflect and didn’t know how to deal with it. Also, I think some of the work that I made and how I pushed myself was to an extreme, at a time when it was unappreciated. So, the more I pushed, the worse it all became for me.

Now when people see My Bed, they don’t go ‘oh’, they go ‘ah’. Because it looks so sweet. It’s so sad. It’s got this whole history, it has its own life. People actually feel for that bed. Whereas, at the time, they felt disgust and shock. It’s just a little bed really, with lots of things that show my life or how I lived for a moment.

MB I think that a lot of women who were your age or younger did understand it straight away. However, with a few brave exceptions, in the 1990s the people who recognised your work weren’t the ones who were writing the reviews or running museums.

TE There are so many reviews from the 90s, which just start off talking about my breasts, which is really shocking, because they never talk about Jeff Koons’s balls and his pink silk suit, as he swaggers in the gallery. Never, ever. So, why did they think that was all right?

MB Part of the second life, then, is that the world around you has shifted, so that we approach this show at Tate, not as Tracey the renegade, but Tracey the leading artist, the painter, and you are in the company of all of the history of painters who have pushed the boundaries.

TE Yes, and I’ve caught up with myself. So, it’s like coming back to Margate. People say, don’t you find it strange coming back to Margate? And I say, no, because Margate’s really changed, and so have I. We both have. We’re parallel.

MB What do you want the public to feel when they’ve gone through your exhibition?

TE I want them to feel. When I made my tent [Everyone I Have Ever Slept With 1963–1995 1995], I didn’t want everyone to think who I’d slept with. I wanted them to think about who they’d slept with. It’s the same thing. I don’t want them to think about my life. I want them to think about their own life.

MB So, their second life.

TE If they’re lucky enough. I’m just giving them a clue how to do it.


Tracey Emin: A Second Life, Tate Modern, 27 February – 31 August 2026

A longer version of this interview appears in the exhibition book Tracey Emin: A Second Life, published by Tate Publishing in February 2026.

Presented in the Eyal Ofer Galleries. In partnership with Gucci. With additional support from the Tracey Emin Exhibition Supporters Circle, Tate International Council, Tate Members and Tate Americas Foundation.

Tracey Emin with her installation My Bed
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Monument Valley (Grand Scale)

This photograph results from a trip Emin made to the United States in 1994. She and her then boyfriend, the writer, curator and gallerist Carl Freedman, drove from San Francisco to New York stopping off along the way to give readings from her book, Exploration of the Soul 1994 (see Tate T11887). The photograph shows the artist sitting in an upholstered chair in Monument Valley, a spectacular location in the middle of the Arizona Desert, holding her book. Although it is open, it is not clear whether she is looking at the viewer or at the text in front of her. Emin gave her readings sitting in the chair, which she had inherited from her grandmother. She appliquéd significant words and sections of text onto it, including her and her twin brother’s names, the year of her grandmother’s birth (1901) and the year of her birth (1963) on either side of the words ‘another world’, referring to the passing of time. An exchange between the artist and her grandmother using the nicknames they had for each other: ‘Ok Puddin, Thanks Plum’, covers the bottom front of the chair and a saying of Emin’s grandmother’s, ‘There’s a lot of money in chairs’, is appliquéd in pink along the top and front of its back. Behind the chair back, the first page of Exploration of the Soul, handwritten onto fabric, is appliquéd together with other dictums such as, ‘It’s not what you inherit. It’s what you do with your inheritance.’ As she crossed the United States, the artist sewed the names of the places she visited – San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Las Vegas, Monument Valley, Detroit, Pittsburgh, New York - onto the front of the chair. Emin subsequently presented the chair as an artwork in its own right titled with her grandmother’s words, There’s A Lot of Money in Chairs 1994 (White Cube, London).

Tracey Emin C.V.

Emin's Tracey Emin CV consists of nine A4 pages covered in the artist's handwriting in turquoise ink. She has numbered the pages in pencil at the top right hand corner. The text recounts, in note form, the significant events of Emin's life, beginning with conception (together with her twin brother) 'in Ireland 1962', up until 1995. These events include her education and professional trajectory, as is usual in a curriculum vitae, as well as more personal experiences and her feelings about them. Mixing her sexual experiences and emotional reactions with her training as an artist and the achievement of qualifications, Emin suggests that all these elements have equal importance in the making of 'Tracey Emin' (the public persona). This proposes emotional experience as part of her qualifications to be an artist and at the same time transforms the curriculum vitae, from which such material is usually omitted, into a more rounded self-portrait. Since her self-published book Exploration of the Soul 1994 (an edition of 200), in which she recounted her life from conception to rape at the age of thirteen, Emin has consistently based her art on the story of her life. In a manner similar to her book, Emin's CV offers the allegedly authentic recounting of the artist's life as the artwork itself. The reconciliation of life and art is a particularly overt tension in the narrative of Emin's CV. After beginning but not completing a fashion diploma at Medway College of Design (she wrote 'was advised to go see a pshciotrist [sic] - as I was condemning myself to life on the dole - '), Emin did a foundation course at John Cass School of Art in London, where she learnt print-making two days a week. In 1983 she was offered a place at Maidstone College of Art where she spent '3 of the happy 1st [sic] years of my life - learning so much so quickly - leave in LOVE with EDVARD MUNCH - and a First Class honours degree'. This seminal period of artistic enlightenment is followed by a passionate and drunken interlude with a married Turkish fisherman eighteen years her senior (in Turkey) before she went to the Royal College of Art in London for two years of further art education. This did not live up to expectations and Emin describes the period as: 'Absolutely amazing - after all that I'd been through - I'd say - these were the worst two years of my life - '. The text then moves to the end of an abusive relationship, after which Emin concludes: 'A victim no more - weak sad time of life - no self respect - too poor'. But things get worse as she becomes pregnant in 1990 and has an abortion that 'went wrong', followed by a second abortion in 1992 done 'without heart'. The narrative climax is reached at the bottom of page seven: 'middle 1992 - commited [sic] emotion suiside [sic]' and explained on the following page: 'Emotional suiside [sic] - is killing your self - without dying - destroyed each - friendship relationship - one - by one - till I was alone - destroyed all my art - left my studio - through [sic] away my curtains - my carpet - my cusions [sic] - my comfort - made my home a cell - waited -'. Despair is followed, in typical Emin fashion, by the beginnings of her public recognition as an artist as she starts to conceptualise her expressive potential and is signed up by White Cube gallery in London in 1993. The artist's self-portrait provided by Emin's CV is consistently ambiguous. In the early pages Emin describes her rape down an alley at the age of thirteen, followed swiftly by the onset of puberty (graphically described through the growth of body hair) and the discovery of the pleasure of sex described as 'fantastic' and 'wonderful' as well as the artist's appetite for it ('shag - shag - shag' and 'bang - bang - bang'). This is accompanied by an account of being kicked in the face and suffering other humiliations from a pair of males, who expose and ridicule her genitals. Her relationship with artist, poet and musician Billy Childish (born 1959) is thus described as 'distruction [sic] resurrection'. As in her video Why I Never Became A Dancer 1995 (Tate T07314), the artist documents her abuse by men and then redeems it through her trajectory of learning not to be 'a victim'. Like many of her works, Emin's CV is simultaneously a means for the artist to exorcise her humiliation and, literally, to transform traumatic past events into something positive. This creative attitude is encapsulated in the words she appliquéed on a chair she inherited from her grandmother in 1994: 'It's not what you inherit. It's what you do with your inheritance.' Tracey Emin CV is accompanied by a video, Tracey Emin CV Cunt Vernacular 1997 (Tate T07633), the sound-track of which is Emin reading her CV aloud. Further reading:Neal Brown, Sarah Kent, Matthew Collings, Tracey Emin: I Need Art Like I Need God, exhibition catalogue, Jay Jopling/White Cube, London 1998Stuart Morgan, 'The Story of I: Interview with Tracey Emin', Frieze, issue 34, May 1997, pp.56-61Lynn Barber, Gregor Muir, Robert Preece, 'Tracey Emin', Parkett, issue 63, 2001, pp.22-63 Elizabeth ManchesterFebruary 2002

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